Comments on: The Genitive http://www.transparent.com/swedish/the-genitive/ Language and Culture of the Swedish-Speaking World Fri, 10 Feb 2012 10:27:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Stu http://www.transparent.com/swedish/the-genitive/comment-page-1/#comment-2226 Stu Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:59:55 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/swedish/?p=265#comment-2226 So, just because I'm a little confused: are genitive and possessive synonyms of each other, as used in Swedish? Seems to be, but I don't want to reach too far in assuming so. So, just because I’m a little confused: are genitive and possessive synonyms of each other, as used in Swedish?

Seems to be, but I don’t want to reach too far in assuming so.

]]> By: David http://www.transparent.com/swedish/the-genitive/comment-page-1/#comment-1001 David Thu, 01 Oct 2009 22:40:36 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/swedish/?p=265#comment-1001 One can in fact add an apostrophe at the end to mark genitive if the possessor ends in "-s" or is pronounced that way: "Tobias' restaurang", "Marx' skrifter". But there is no "s" after the apostrophe, and the use of the apostrophe is strictly voluntary. One point of controversy previously has been how to use the "-s" genitive when the possessor is a full phrase. Is it "Konungens av Danmark bröstkarameller" or "Konungen av Danmarks bröstkarameller" (the cough drops belonging to the King of Denmark)? (Believe it or not, this is actually the example traditionally cited in the discussion!) Previously, grammarians recommended the first form, but are now much more accepting of the second. This, of course, just makes it easier for the Swedish learner. One can in fact add an apostrophe at the end to mark genitive if the possessor ends in “-s” or is pronounced that way: “Tobias’ restaurang”, “Marx’ skrifter”. But there is no “s” after the apostrophe, and the use of the apostrophe is strictly voluntary.

One point of controversy previously has been how to use the “-s” genitive when the possessor is a full phrase. Is it “Konungens av Danmark bröstkarameller” or “Konungen av Danmarks bröstkarameller” (the cough drops belonging to the King of Denmark)? (Believe it or not, this is actually the example traditionally cited in the discussion!)

Previously, grammarians recommended the first form, but are now much more accepting of the second. This, of course, just makes it easier for the Swedish learner.

]]> By: Mats http://www.transparent.com/swedish/the-genitive/comment-page-1/#comment-1000 Mats Thu, 01 Oct 2009 12:01:44 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/swedish/?p=265#comment-1000 Colon is used when an abbreviation or a number gets a suffix (USA:s, EKG:n, 3:e), but also in contractions (s:t for sankt). Colon is used when an abbreviation or a number gets a suffix (USA:s, EKG:n, 3:e), but also in contractions (s:t for sankt).

]]> By: Ann http://www.transparent.com/swedish/the-genitive/comment-page-1/#comment-999 Ann Sun, 27 Sep 2009 04:36:56 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/swedish/?p=265#comment-999 Names that end in s have no extra s. It's just assumed. I was reading Henning Mankel's "Kinesen" and noticed that one of the characters, known by his initials JA (no periods), got "JA:s" as a genitive form. I've seen that colon used in different ways in Sweden. Ann Names that end in s have no extra s. It’s just assumed.

I was reading Henning Mankel’s “Kinesen” and noticed that one of the characters, known by his initials JA (no periods), got “JA:s” as a genitive form. I’ve seen that colon used in different ways in Sweden.

Ann

]]> By: Fritz http://www.transparent.com/swedish/the-genitive/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Fritz Sat, 26 Sep 2009 14:46:44 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/swedish/?p=265#comment-998 Great post. However, it makes me wonder how you handle nouns that end in s. For example: Linus? gården är vacker. Great post. However, it makes me wonder how you handle nouns that end in s. For example: Linus? gården är vacker.

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