Comments on: Word formation in Arabic http://www.transparent.com/arabic/word-formation-in-arabic/ Language and Culture of the Arabic-Speaking World Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:28:01 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Aziza http://www.transparent.com/arabic/word-formation-in-arabic/#comment-122 Aziza Tue, 23 Jun 2009 23:15:43 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/arabic/?p=67#comment-122 True, Ray. There are patterns, and I will be explaining them in future posts. There are dangers in overgeneralizing rules for making derivatives, e.g. some of the derivatives are not in use for all roots, and some have special rules when one or more of the main letters of the root are vowels. I remember one of my students who was fond of making derivatives for each and every root he encountered, and then he used to check with me and other teachers whether they were in use or not, correct or not, etc. If you have an Arabic-Arabic, or an Arabic-English dictionary like Hans Wher, you will find many of the relevant derivatives listed under the root. تحياتي عزيزة True, Ray. There are patterns, and I will be explaining them in future posts. There are dangers in overgeneralizing rules for making derivatives, e.g. some of the derivatives are not in use for all roots, and some have special rules when one or more of the main letters of the root are vowels.
I remember one of my students who was fond of making derivatives for each and every root he encountered, and then he used to check with me and other teachers whether they were in use or not, correct or not, etc.
If you have an Arabic-Arabic, or an Arabic-English dictionary like Hans Wher, you will find many of the relevant derivatives listed under the root.
تحياتي
عزيزة

]]> By: Ray http://www.transparent.com/arabic/word-formation-in-arabic/#comment-121 Ray Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:55:06 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/arabic/?p=67#comment-121 "Nice table" is right! Shukran jazilan! Now, I need 10 other roots, and I'll figure out the tables for each. I knew there were patterns in there somewhere. “Nice table” is right! Shukran jazilan! Now, I need 10 other roots, and I’ll figure out the tables for each. I knew there were patterns in there somewhere.

]]> By: Aziza http://www.transparent.com/arabic/word-formation-in-arabic/#comment-120 Aziza Tue, 23 Jun 2009 08:44:14 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/arabic/?p=67#comment-120 Ahlan Robert, علم & عرف are synonyms. They both mean to know or to find out. You can use them interchangeably in experssions like: did you know the news? هل عرفت الخبر؟ هل علمت الخبر؟ Some times there are differences between them, e.g. to know somebody, you can only use عرف هل تعرف محمد؟ Do you know Mohammed? Some examlples of derivatives of (عرف) are (عارف) one who knows (معروف) known, (معرفة) knowledge, (عرّف) introduced, (تعارف became acquaintances, etc. I hope this helps! Salam, Aziza Ahlan Robert,
علم & عرف are synonyms. They both mean to know or to find out. You can use them interchangeably in experssions like: did you know the news?
هل عرفت الخبر؟
هل علمت الخبر؟
Some times there are differences between them, e.g. to know somebody, you can only use عرف
هل تعرف محمد؟
Do you know Mohammed?

Some examlples of derivatives of (عرف) are (عارف) one who knows (معروف) known, (معرفة) knowledge, (عرّف) introduced, (تعارف became acquaintances, etc.
I hope this helps!
Salam,
Aziza

]]> By: Robert L. Roach http://www.transparent.com/arabic/word-formation-in-arabic/#comment-118 Robert L. Roach Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:08:06 +0000 http://www.transparent.com/arabic/?p=67#comment-118 Nice table, thanks! It is helpful to see the derivations together. One of the entires for the "word of the day," ﻑﺮﻋ , is listed as "to know." How are the root concepts of ﻑﺮﻋ and عَلِم related to each other? Nice table, thanks! It is helpful to see the derivations together.

One of the entires for the “word of the day,” ﻑﺮﻋ , is listed as “to know.”

How are the root concepts of ﻑﺮﻋ and عَلِم related to each other?

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